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Bay Area Golf Course Survey Results
(Ranked by overall score)
This set of pages provides analysis of the surveys our members
recently received. These surveys asked members to rank all the public golf
courses within 125 miles of Berkeley. Members were instructed to rank courses in
terms of their own feelings about which courses they would prefer to serve as
venues for future tournaments. Each course listed included information on
weekend green fees and distance from Berkeley, so members could factor those
elements, as well as their impressions of the course, in their decision. Below
is the results of the 28 completed surveys we've received as of 12/15/01. Data
may be sorted in various ways by clicking on headers. Header explanations listed
below. Those of you who failed to get your survey in on time will have to
live with these results until the next time we do this, likely in two years.
The results seems to
indicate that our members prefer playing upscale courses. High marks
were also given to courses in good condition, and courses that were perceived
as good bargains. Surveys also suggested that there is an interest in
playing a broader selection of courses. At the recent board meeting it
was agreed that the current balance of courses, upscale vs. affordable,
on our schedule is probably just about the right. So no dramatic changes
will likely be made in this direction. However, the board will be
looking over the survey results in determining which courses our
membership prefers playing. It is interesting to note, perhaps not
surprisingly, that many of the courses we play regularly scored in the
top-10. In fact, of the courses that have hosted three or more UCGC
tournaments in the past four years, only Las Positas and Adobe Creek
failed to score in the top-10. (These two courses, incidentally, also
failed to score in the top-30, however, in defense of Las Positas, it
has been the most highly attended venue over the past several years. As
for Adobe Creek, it received the second highest total of "F"
scores, behind Crystal Springs) Poppy Hills was the run-away
high-scorer, ranking as a top-10 course in 19 of the 28 completed
surveys and ranking as a top-20 course in 23 of them.
|
|
Course |
Score |
A |
B |
C |
F |
$ |
Miles |
#T |
| 1st |
|
Poppy Hills |
21.0 |
19 |
4 |
1 |
|
65 |
120 |
|
| 2nd |
|
Wente Vineyards |
18.5 |
13 |
5 |
4 |
|
115 |
38 |
3 |
| 3rd |
|
Poppy Ridge |
16.9 |
14 |
5 |
3 |
2 |
52 |
38 |
3 |
| 4th |
|
Boundary Oak |
16.5 |
6 |
8 |
8 |
1 |
44 |
15 |
4 |
|
|
Chardonnay |
16.5 |
4 |
10 |
7 |
|
70 |
38 |
|
| 6th |
|
Hiddenbrook |
14.6 |
14 |
3 |
2 |
2 |
100 |
22 |
|
| 7th |
|
Paradise Valley |
14.3 |
3 |
11 |
4 |
|
58 |
37 |
5 |
| 8th |
|
Fountaingrove |
13.9 |
7 |
8 |
3 |
1 |
95 |
54 |
|
| 9th |
|
Bayonet/Black Horse |
13.1 |
7 |
5 |
4 |
|
100 |
114 |
|
| 10th |
|
Windsor |
12.3 |
6 |
6 |
3 |
|
61 |
64 |
2 |
| 11th |
|
San Juan Oaks |
12.0 |
10 |
2 |
2 |
|
95 |
91 |
1 |
| 12th |
|
Twelve Bridges |
11.8 |
9 |
2 |
3 |
|
75 |
107 |
|
| 13th |
|
Harding Park |
11.7 |
3 |
6 |
6 |
|
42 |
14 |
|
| 14th |
|
Stevinson Ranch |
10.6 |
6 |
3 |
4 |
|
65 |
110 |
1 |
| 15th |
|
Roddy Ranch |
10.4 |
7 |
5 |
4 |
3 |
75 |
36 |
2 |
|
|
Diablo Grande (Ranch) |
10.4 |
5 |
5 |
4 |
1 |
80 |
81 |
2 |
| 17th |
|
Bridges (The) |
10.1 |
4 |
4 |
6 |
1 |
95 |
25 |
|
| 18th |
|
Alameda (North) |
9.8 |
2 |
9 |
5 |
3 |
42 |
9 |
2 |
| 19th |
|
Pasatiempo |
9.7 |
6 |
3 |
4 |
1 |
170 |
75 |
|
| 20th |
|
Rancho Solano |
9.5 |
3 |
7 |
3 |
1 |
58 |
37 |
1 |
|
|
Rooster Run |
9.5 |
2 |
7 |
3 |
|
61 |
39 |
2 |
| 22nd |
|
Presidio |
9.3 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
87 |
14 |
|
| 23rd |
|
Diablo Grande (Legends) |
8.9 |
6 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
100 |
81 |
|
| 24th |
|
Franklin Canyon |
8.3 |
3 |
4 |
6 |
2 |
61 |
16 |
|
| 25th |
|
Saddle Creek |
8.1 |
2 |
7 |
1 |
|
90 |
115 |
1 |
| 26th |
|
Reserve at Spanos Park |
7.9 |
2 |
5 |
3 |
|
65 |
76 |
1 |
| 27th |
|
San Geronimo |
7.5 |
6 |
2 |
2 |
1 |
72 |
27 |
2 |
|
|
Tilden Park |
7.5 |
4 |
3 |
6 |
3 |
59 |
2 |
2 |
| 29th |
|
Oakmont (West) |
7.3 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
|
58 |
54 |
|
| 30th |
|
Diablo Creek |
7.1 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
42 |
21 |
2 |
| 31st |
|
De Laveaga |
7.0 |
3 |
3 |
4 |
1 |
62 |
75 |
|
|
|
Indian Valley |
7.0 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
|
61 |
28 |
|
| 33rd |
|
Half Moon Bay (Links) |
6.8 |
4 |
3 |
5 |
3 |
145 |
41 |
|
| 34th |
|
Las Positas |
6.5 |
2 |
2 |
7 |
2 |
48 |
38 |
4 |
| 35th |
|
Pacific Grove |
6.2 |
1 |
4 |
3 |
|
52 |
118 |
|
| 36th |
|
Bodega Harbour |
6.1 |
4 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
90 |
70 |
2 |
|
|
Bennett Valley |
6.1 |
1 |
5 |
3 |
1 |
36 |
54 |
|
| 38th |
|
Adobe Creek |
5.8 |
8 |
3 |
1 |
5 |
70 |
39 |
4 |
|
|
Stonetree |
5.8 |
4 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
115 |
28 |
|
| 40th |
|
Spyglass Hill |
5.7 |
5 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
275 |
120 |
|
|
|
Lone Tree |
5.7 |
1 |
1 |
7 |
1 |
42 |
36 |
2 |
| 42nd |
|
Half Moon Bay (Ocean) |
5.6 |
5 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
145 |
41 |
|
|
|
Canyon Lakes |
5.6 |
1 |
2 |
7 |
2 |
80 |
25 |
|
| 44th |
|
Silverado (North) |
5.4 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
130 |
38 |
|
|
|
Silverado (South) |
5.4 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
130 |
38 |
|
| 46th |
|
Monarch Bay |
5.3 |
|
5 |
7 |
4 |
83 |
16 |
2 |
| 47th |
|
Cinnabar Hills |
5.2 |
5 |
2 |
|
1 |
120 |
47 |
|
| 48th |
|
Delta View |
5.0 |
1 |
1 |
6 |
1 |
37 |
32 |
|
| 49th |
|
Blue Rock (East) |
4.9 |
1 |
2 |
6 |
2 |
43 |
22 |
|
| 50th |
|
Pebble Beach |
4.7 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
375 |
120 |
|
|
|
Spanish Bay |
4.7 |
2 |
3 |
2 |
1 |
235 |
120 |
|
| 52nd |
|
Ancil Hoffman |
4.2 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
|
40 |
89 |
|
|
|
Haggin Oaks (McKenzie) |
4.2 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
|
50 |
77 |
|
| 54th |
|
Alameda (South) |
4.1 |
1 |
3 |
5 |
3 |
42 |
9 |
1 |
| 55th |
|
Eagle Ridge |
4.0 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
100 |
76 |
|
|
|
Turkey Creek |
4.0 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
|
67 |
107 |
|
| 57th |
|
Mare Island |
3.9 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
1 |
55 |
22 |
|
|
|
Brentwood |
3.9 |
|
4 |
1 |
|
65 |
47 |
|
| 59th |
|
Coyote Creek (Tourn.) |
3.8 |
1 |
3 |
2 |
1 |
110 |
47 |
|
| 60th |
|
Coyote Creek (Valley) |
3.7 |
1 |
2 |
3 |
1 |
74 |
47 |
|
|
|
Napa Muni |
3.7 |
|
4 |
2 |
1 |
52 |
38 |
|
| 62nd |
|
Rio Vista |
3.6 |
1 |
3 |
3 |
2 |
65 |
53 |
1 |
| 63rd |
|
Peacock Gap |
3.5 |
1 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
60 |
18 |
|
| 64th |
|
Santa Teresa |
3.0 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
64 |
47 |
|
|
|
Greenhorn Creek |
3.0 |
1 |
2 |
2 |
1 |
75 |
128 |
1 |
|
|
Seascape |
3.0 |
|
2 |
2 |
|
87 |
81 |
|
|
|
Sea Ranch |
3.0 |
1 |
|
3 |
|
83 |
117 |
|
| 68th |
|
Carmel Valley Ranch |
2.9 |
1 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
180 |
131 |
|
| 69th |
|
Rancho Canada (East) |
2.8 |
|
|
4 |
|
82 |
131 |
|
| 70th |
|
Bethel Island |
2.4 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
|
36 |
48 |
|
|
|
La Contenta |
2.4 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
|
45 |
108 |
|
|
|
Ridge, The |
2.4 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
|
64 |
110 |
|
| 73rd |
|
Lincoln Park |
2.3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
1 |
38 |
14 |
|
| 74th |
|
Ridgemark (Diablo) |
2.2 |
|
1 |
2 |
|
70 |
91 |
|
| 75th |
|
Mountain Shadows (No.) |
2.1 |
|
2 |
2 |
1 |
46 |
48 |
1 |
|
|
Wildhorse |
2.1 |
|
2 |
2 |
1 |
50 |
64 |
|
|
|
Rancho Canada (West) |
2.1 |
|
|
3 |
|
97 |
131 |
|
| 78th |
|
Apple Mountain |
1.8 |
2 |
|
|
|
60 |
127 |
|
| 79th |
|
Whitney Oaks |
1.6 |
1 |
|
1 |
|
59 |
99 |
|
|
|
Sunol Valley |
1.6 |
|
2 |
|
|
55 |
37 |
|
|
|
Teal Bend |
1.6 |
|
2 |
|
|
60 |
77 |
|
| 82nd |
|
Castle Oaks |
1.5 |
|
1 |
1 |
|
48 |
102 |
|
|
|
Ridgemark (Gabilan) |
1.5 |
|
1 |
1 |
|
70 |
91 |
|
| 84th |
|
Boulder Creek |
1.4 |
1 |
|
2 |
1 |
50 |
81 |
|
|
|
Laguna Seca |
1.4 |
|
|
2 |
|
82 |
116 |
|
|
|
Micke Grove |
1.4 |
|
|
2 |
|
42 |
77 |
|
|
|
Palo Alto Muni |
1.4 |
|
|
2 |
|
50 |
41 |
|
|
|
Wildhawk |
1.4 |
|
|
2 |
|
52 |
77 |
|
| 89th |
|
Dry Creek Ranch |
0.8 |
|
1 |
|
|
44 |
101 |
|
|
|
Swenson Park |
0.8 |
|
1 |
|
|
33 |
76 |
|
| 91st |
|
Del Monte |
0.7 |
1 |
|
1 |
1 |
116 |
116 |
|
|
|
Royal Vista |
0.7 |
1 |
|
1 |
1 |
52 |
25 |
|
|
|
Plumas Lake |
0.7 |
|
|
1 |
|
36 |
115 |
|
|
|
Poplar Creek |
0.7 |
|
|
1 |
|
50 |
30 |
|
|
|
Sunnyvale |
0.7 |
|
|
1 |
|
50 |
43 |
|
| 96th |
|
Santa Clara |
0.6 |
|
1 |
1 |
1 |
51 |
48 |
|
| 97th |
|
Blue Rock (West) |
0.5 |
|
2 |
1 |
2 |
41 |
22 |
|
| 98th |
|
Shoreline |
0.4 |
|
3 |
1 |
3 |
61 |
46 |
1 |
| 99th |
|
Sharp Park |
0.3 |
|
|
3 |
2 |
39 |
27 |
|
| 100th |
|
Lake Chabot |
0.1 |
|
2 |
3 |
4 |
50 |
5 |
|
|
|
Skywest |
0.1 |
|
|
4 |
3 |
46 |
20 |
|
| 102nd |
Manteca Park |
0.0 |
1 |
|
|
1 |
36 |
70 |
|
|
|
Rancho Del Rey |
0.0 |
1 |
|
|
1 |
35 |
116 |
|
|
|
Antelope Greens |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
28 |
92 |
|
|
|
Bartley Cavanaugh |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
42 |
77 |
|
|
|
Bing Maloney |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
40 |
77 |
|
|
|
Cordova |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
21 |
77 |
|
|
|
Diamond Oaks |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
38 |
96 |
|
|
|
Dryden Park |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
34 |
85 |
|
|
|
El Dorado Hills |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
37 |
109 |
|
|
|
Forest Lake |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
24 |
80 |
|
|
|
Green Tree |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
39 |
22 |
|
|
|
Hidden Valley Lake |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
48 |
90 |
|
|
|
Jack Tone |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
28 |
75 |
|
|
|
Lighthouse |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
38 |
75 |
|
|
|
Lockeford Springs |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
50 |
77 |
|
|
|
Mace Meadow |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
43 |
126 |
|
|
|
Merced Hills |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
35 |
124 |
|
|
|
Mountain Springs |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
49 |
126 |
|
|
|
Old River |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
32 |
56 |
|
|
|
Pajaro Valley |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
77 |
90 |
|
|
|
Pleasant Hills |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
43 |
47 |
|
|
|
Rio La Paz |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
39 |
98 |
|
|
|
River Oaks |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
16 |
89 |
|
|
|
Salinas Fairways |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
39 |
104 |
|
|
|
Spring Hills |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
54 |
91 |
|
|
|
Sun City |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
53 |
96 |
|
|
|
Ukiah Muni |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
35 |
115 |
|
|
|
Van Buskirk Park |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
33 |
76 |
|
|
|
Woodcreek |
0.0 |
|
|
|
|
54 |
96 |
|
| 131st |
|
Cherry Island |
-0.1 |
|
1 |
|
1 |
38 |
88 |
|
| 132nd |
Willow Park |
-0.2 |
|
2 |
|
2 |
34 |
19 |
2 |
|
|
Deep Cliff |
-0.2 |
|
|
1 |
1 |
35 |
53 |
|
|
|
San Jose Muni |
-0.2 |
|
|
1 |
1 |
55 |
47 |
|
|
|
Summitpoint |
-0.2 |
|
|
1 |
1 |
70 |
40 |
|
| 136th |
|
Spring Valley |
-0.3 |
|
1 |
1 |
2 |
65 |
40 |
|
| 137th |
|
Creekside |
-0.9 |
|
|
|
1 |
38 |
85 |
|
|
|
Davis Muni |
-0.9 |
|
|
|
1 |
25 |
64 |
|
|
|
Southridge |
-0.9 |
|
|
|
1 |
40 |
125 |
|
| 140th |
|
Crystal Springs |
-4.9 |
|
|
2 |
7 |
80 |
27 |
|
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Score = Uses the following formula to arrive at an
overall course score: [(A*.9)+(B*.8)+(C*.7)]-(F*.9) Basically it
tallies the marks received. The only drawback to this is that courses
which received few or no votes, positive or negative aren't given much of a
rating. For instance, a course like Lockeford Springs, were it to have been
given enough votes, one way or the other, would probably have ranked
much higher than a 30 way tie for 102nd(0 points). Another shortcoming
is that a decent course like Cherry Island ranked poorly due to a single
vote.
-
A - Number of A's course received. Each A signifies
that this course ranked as a top-10 course for the member.
-
B - Number of B's course received. Each B signifies
that this course ranked as a top-11-20 course for the member.
-
C - Number of C's course received. Each C signifies
that this course ranked as a top-21-30 course for the member.
-
F - Number of F's course received. Each F signifies
that, for one reason or another, the member did not like this course. It
must be stated that many of the F's courses received were given when the
member felt the green fees were too high. Affordability, therefore, provided
for several negative marks.
-
$ - Weekend green fees, with cart.
-
Miles - Miles from Berkeley
-
#T - Number of UCGC tournaments this course has
hosted over the past 4 years.
Other Survey
Responses The survey also contained a set of questions
relating to what members consider important to them in their decision to participate
in a given tournament. These choices have been ranked. Most interesting in these
averages is how little consideration members gave to expense as a factor in their
decision. It appears that, for the most part, people prefer to pay more and play
a well-designed and well-conditioned course, rather than playing a mediocre, yet
inexpensive course. After course design and course condition, people tended to
rate proximity as the next important consideration. Members
ranked each item 1-9(or 1-10) in order of importance. The lower the average
score, the greater importance attributed.
|
Reasons for not participating |
Avg. score |
| 1st |
Schedule conflict / Family responsibilities |
1.89 |
| 2nd |
Too far to drive |
3.58 |
| 3rd |
Course doesn't appeal to me |
3.81 |
| 4th |
Injury / Ailment |
4.58 |
| 5th |
Members of my group aren't playing |
4.96 |
| 6th |
Too expensive |
5.00 |
| 7th |
Slow play |
5.96 |
| 8th |
Weather too hot/cold |
6.04 |
| 9th |
I never win |
8.52 |
|
Important to our members |
Avg. Score |
| 1st |
Challenging courses |
2.96 |
| 2nd |
Interesting courses |
3.15 |
| 3rd |
Course condition |
3.69 |
| 4th |
Courses that are new to me |
4.15 |
| 5th |
Scenic courses |
5.00 |
| 6th |
Nearby courses |
5.33 |
| 7th |
Inexpensive courses |
7.00 |
| 8th |
Familiar courses |
7.15 |
| 9th |
Walk-able courses |
7.35 |
| 10th |
Easy courses |
8.77 |
What We Learned The data we collected from
theses surveys is very insightful for learning how our members feel about
certain courses. It also helps us understand the considerations that determine
member participation in given events. Improvements to the way the survey was
administered would provide a more equitable evaluation of each course. In a few
years we'd like to provide another similar survey, but instead of rating only 30
courses, have everyone rate every course they've ever played, rating them
either A, B, C, D or F. This would achieve a broader sampling of evaluated
courses and a broader spectrum of ratings.
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